Let's fix up some G1 Jetfire listings!

[Tripredacus]

Alright, currently my obsession is going to be G1 Jetfire. I've been asking around (still have one question left unanswered, but I'll check my email tonight and get back to ya) and have compiled all the info I can. Here is a summary, Shmax style. Before I get to far ahead, I know there are some transitional versions out there but it is impossible to determine originality vs rebuilt Jetfires this far out. Especially since you can't tell which Bandai stamp a toy may have if it is MISB.

First up, G1 Plain Wing Jetfire
http://shmax.com/product_details/781/jetfire

This article needs to be cloned, since there are 2 plain wing Jetfire toys. The main difference is the stamping. One has the square Bandai Logo and the other has the word Bandai logo. Which also brings up the question of whether this article should list Bandai as the manufacturer rather than Hasbro.

In addition we have the two Macross versions:
http://shmax.com/product_details/5291/jetfire
http://shmax.com/product_details/5292/jetfire
Which, in each case, are also not manufactured by Hasbro, but in fact Matsushiro.

From what my research has shown, it is quite unlikely (and thus not ever reported as such) as a Matsushiro Jetfire showing up in any releases other than the US. Unless an MISB or AFA foreign Jetfire shows up proving otherwise, we'll have to accept this as a fact for now. Another is the fact that it is not known which Bandai stamp showed up in non-US releases as well.

So this leads me to the next question, since 3 more Jetfire items need to be created, I'm guessing only db mods have this ability. The first one was already covered. The other two are the two European versions.

Milton Bradley released Europe 1985
Hasbro released Europe 1985?

The Hasbro box is the same as the MB box but has the Hasbro logo instead. Everything else, including the multiple languages, are the same.

[engledogg]

There are actually six variants (seven counting the transitional unit) to Jetfire.  From Fred's workshop:

Matsushiro 1: Finer "ridged" detail on antennae, painted insignia, lined canopy.
Matsushiro 2: Finer "ridged" detail on antennae, sticker insignia, lined canopy.
Matsushiro 3: Finer "ridged" detail on antennae, sticker insignia, unlined canopy.
Matsu-Bandai: Matsu body with Bandai antennae/copyright. (Transitional Unit)
Bandai 1: Smooth antennae, Bandai logo, no insignia, no copyright.
Bandai 2: Smooth antennae, Bandai "box", no insignia, logo (C)1984.
Bandai 3: Smooth antennae, Bandai "box", no insignia, logo (C)1985.

The reason why we didn't go into this amount of detail could be that at the time of the listings, only three variants were really "recognized"...or it could be that these fall under stampings/markings variants, which could potentially open up a huge can of worms.  Stampings are just too "all over the place" to accurately keep track of.  I mean, yes anyone can make a list of the various stampings and markings found on a figure, but to match up those figures with the correct package is another story entirely.  Once we have a better variant system, things like this will be addressed.

As far as Bandai/Matsushiro as the manufacturer, we're going with Hasbro.  Just like with Shockwave (ToyCo), Skylynx and Omega Supreme (Toybox), and anything else that Hasbro borrowed the molds from, we consider Hasbro the manufacturer.

Where you will find some of those companies is in the mold origin:

http://www.shmax.com/part_details/17955/jetfire

The Jetfire mold originated with the Macross line, produced by Takatoku Toys.  Takatoku Toys went belly up in 1984, and their projects were purchased by Bandai, which then licensed out some of the molds (Jetfire, Deluxe Insecticons, Deluxe Autobots) to Hasbro.

Any user can submit a new package.  Just click on the "Add it Yourself!" button and go from there.

So, once you create the packages, if you can find out which existing version(s) goes in the European MB and Hasbro boxes, I'll do a quick copy for ya...

MIKE
engledogg